tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5353489745782837825.post2822925486149601037..comments2024-02-25T00:38:34.874+08:00Comments on Patrick Cowsill: Sun Yat-sen and the Brothels He VisitedPatrick Cowsillhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12904899672214340947noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5353489745782837825.post-40910317403315507632011-03-09T08:01:00.133+08:002011-03-09T08:01:00.133+08:00Haha, it's sad that kids in Taiwan are being b...Haha, it's sad that kids in Taiwan are being brainwashed that Sun is "國父" and that Chiang is "蔣公". Those two have done absolutely nothing at all for Taiwan, and in the case of Chiang, has even wreaked havoc upon the island. Why should kids have to see Sun's face every single day in the "禮堂" when he did absolutely nothing for Taiwan, and arguably established something that has only hurt Taiwan, aka the KMT?Josh Kuonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5353489745782837825.post-91979474745206764192010-05-28T19:48:53.074+08:002010-05-28T19:48:53.074+08:00“Not just Mao Zedong, SYS also claimed that Taiwan...“Not just Mao Zedong, SYS also claimed that Taiwan is independent from China. According to a speech of Dai Jitao (戴季陶), one of the key figures in early KMT organization, SYS proposed that China should help set the small nations in Asia free from emperialism. The aforesaid small nations include Korea and Taiwan.“<br /><br />Thanks Voyu. Do you have a link to the Dai Jitao (戴季陶) speech. I'd love to follow up on it a bit in a future post.Patrick Cowsillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12904899672214340947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5353489745782837825.post-81902598133225528752010-05-28T17:05:52.148+08:002010-05-28T17:05:52.148+08:00Not just Mao Zedong, SYS also claimed that Taiwan ...Not just Mao Zedong, SYS also claimed that Taiwan is independent from China. According to a speech of Dai Jitao (戴季陶), one of the key figures in early KMT organization, SYS proposed that China should help set the small nations in Asia free from emperialism. The aforesaid small nations include Korea and Taiwan.<br /><br />Well, of course KMT and their myth-makers would not like people to know things like this. They just keep on lying.XingyiReporterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04655556578696254692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5353489745782837825.post-50502491434749322072010-05-26T19:49:39.130+08:002010-05-26T19:49:39.130+08:00"It is an impressive article, especially the ..."It is an impressive article, especially the part about history of Taiwan; the writing should get a full mark if I were your English 1A teacher."<br /><br />Thanks Chosan. I realize I'm getting a bit repetitious on this issue, but I can't help myself. I can't stand to see it get swept under the rug. <br /><br />"This is a great summary of recent Taiwan history. I wish I had had a chance to read the true history like this when I was growing up in Taiwan."<br /><br />Thanks to you too, Annon. The true history is being written despite the efforts of our present "government."Patrick Cowsillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12904899672214340947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5353489745782837825.post-24560287900140999512010-05-25T23:37:18.824+08:002010-05-25T23:37:18.824+08:00This is a great summary of recent Taiwan history. ...This is a great summary of recent Taiwan history. I wish I had had a chance to read the true history like this when I was growing up in Taiwan. Being living in the States for almost 30 years, my emotional connection with my homeland always gets tighter every time I read something like this. I hope someday, we all have a true history printed on the history book and read by every child.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5353489745782837825.post-44621098569430386632010-05-25T20:06:01.054+08:002010-05-25T20:06:01.054+08:00"Do you have the address for the old AIT Buil..."Do you have the address for the old AIT Building or know where it is?" I know exactly where it is: <br /><br />Here is the old AIT on Google Maps, being renovated: http://ow.ly/1Pw1B <br /><br />I used to spend hours in their library.Patrick Cowsillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12904899672214340947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5353489745782837825.post-30862021509311677892010-05-25T18:31:13.039+08:002010-05-25T18:31:13.039+08:00"The other 228 museum that I was referring to..."The other 228 museum that I was referring to was the one that was put into the old AIT building on 南海路, roughly halfway between Roosevelt Road and 重慶南路"<br /><br />Do you have the address for the old AIT Building or know where it is?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5353489745782837825.post-876355994286680492010-05-25T11:43:20.840+08:002010-05-25T11:43:20.840+08:00@Scott "Nothing new there-- didn't someth...@Scott "Nothing new there-- didn't something similiar hapen in post-war Germany and Italy?" <br /><br />No it didn't, Germany takes it's past very seriously. Every child in Germany's schools learns how the war was Germany's fault, how it's citizens were either enthusiastically participating or at least accepting what was going on.StefanMuchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13041616398172997165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5353489745782837825.post-15924114539592325752010-05-25T09:57:19.372+08:002010-05-25T09:57:19.372+08:00Perhaps SYS came to Taiwan to recruit volunteers t...Perhaps SYS came to Taiwan to recruit volunteers to help him overthrow the warlords. <br /><br />Perhaps a deal was struck with the Japanese ->help us, and you can keep Korea. (??) Just a guess. <br /><br />~While at the SYS memorial hall here in Taipei, I often wonder why is it that there are so many photos of SYS? It's almost like a photographer took pictures of him everyday of his life for the purpose of building up his (non) legend. The way the Chinese and Taiwanese glorify SYS is disappointing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5353489745782837825.post-70962454376192738122010-05-22T12:43:35.024+08:002010-05-22T12:43:35.024+08:00Great blog!!!
If you like, come back and visit min...Great blog!!!<br />If you like, come back and visit mine: http://albumdeestampillas.blogspot.com<br /><br />Thanks,<br />Pablo form ArgentinaPablo (yo)https://www.blogger.com/profile/12778686167736802179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5353489745782837825.post-30782761431356013372010-05-21T15:42:46.399+08:002010-05-21T15:42:46.399+08:00Well, I was wondering, because that Japanese house...Well, I was wondering, because that Japanese house on the corner of 中山北路 and 市民大道 has been the "SYS house" for years, at least since 2001 or 2002, when I first walked in there. Has it been re-done recently?<br /><br />The other 228 museum that I was referring to was the one that was put into the old AIT building on 南海路, roughly halfway between Roosevelt Road and 重慶南路. They spent about a year restoring the building, then opened the museum. Then, after when Ma was elected, the museum closed, and the whole building was re- restored. Sounds weird, I know, but it was completely gutted all over again. Last time I was by there, they still had not finished. Makes me wonder if the contracter just has such good connections in the city government, that he can get contracted to restore the same building twice. They may do it a third time. Wouldn't surprise me at all.<br /><br />As far as speculating whether or not the KMT will change the name of the 228 museum in the 和平公園.... I doubt that. I think they know that would be create a lightning rod for dissent. They know by now that they can no longer get away with simply erasing that history. They know they have to be seen as confronting it in some way. Don't you think their agenda would be more in the direction of trying to dilute the significance of the historical record, without appearing to do so? <br /><br />They see the whole 228 issue as a way for the DPP to exacerbate ethnic tensions, so I think they will try set up the new museum in such a way that will make it appear that they are taking the issue seriously, but will in effect blur the ethnic side of the events, and the whole decades-long martial law/white terror era by making it seem like ALL people suffered equally-- both people of mainland families and native Taiwanese. <br /><br />That way-- no one group in society can really be seen as the oppressor, and no group can be seen as the victim. Which means that everybody should "get over it" and quit bitching about it. They can neutralize it as a political and historical issue with the potentail to hurt the party.<br /><br />Nothing new there-- didn't something similiar hapen in post-war Germany and Italy? Yes, they hung a couple dozen war criminals, and then that was that. Kids there learn that "Everybody" was a victim of fascism, and in Italy, it is so interesting how everybody's family was 'connected' with the underground anti-fascist movement...but so strange how nobody's family had any connection to the fascist army or police. And here in the South, 'we' were all victims of the civil war, etc.<br /><br />--ScottAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5353489745782837825.post-80769246212217183022010-05-21T14:51:54.095+08:002010-05-21T14:51:54.095+08:00"It's not that Japanese-style wooden hous..."It's not that Japanese-style wooden house on the corner of 中山北路 and 市民大道 with the garden and pond beside it, is it?"<br /><br />That's it. I'll go back and take some outside shots. I want to take some photos of 2-28 Museum as well. The museum is in the park, at the south end. I wouldn't say Nanhai Road, more like Ketalagan Blvd (凱達格蘭); I wonder how long it takes them to change that name. I don't know if 228 is national or not. But I'd be interested to find out.<br /><br />"The CCP didn't care especially much about Taiwan before then, either, did they?" No, they did not. In fact, Mao Zedong said in the 1930s that Taiwan was not a part of China.Patrick Cowsillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12904899672214340947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5353489745782837825.post-49816573619839014422010-05-21T10:10:07.943+08:002010-05-21T10:10:07.943+08:00I am also curious to know what's going on with...I am also curious to know what's going on with the 228 museum in the 228 park. Do you think it is undergoing a revisionist make-over?<br /><br />I read that that is the municiple 228 museum, and that the 228 museum on 南海路 is national. I'm still not clear on how they are administrated. I was in the museum on 南海路 when it opened a few years ago, and then it was closed for a long period. Why is there no permanent museum?<br /><br />But I am always interested to hear about new museums in Taipei. Where is the new museum you mentioned? It's not that Japanese-style wooden house on the corner of 中山北路 and 市民大道 with the garden and pond beside it, is it? <br /><br />Studied a bit of late-Qing history some years ago, and I also don't recall ever hearing that SYS had anything much against Japan or Japanese. He visited Japan a number of times, and was in contact with anti-Qing Chinese there, as he was with "overseas Chinese" all over Asia, Hawaii and the U.S. Among the many inconvenient facts for people trying to write KMT-friendly history is that Taiwan (and the fact that it was controlled by Japan) probably mattered very little (or, more likely, not at all) to SYS and the leaders of the R.O.C. in the first three decades of the Republic. <br /><br />Taiwan did not become significant to the KMT at all until Japan was defeated, and the KMT was losing the war to the CCP. The CCP didn't care especially much about Taiwan before then, either, did they?<br /><br />--scottAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5353489745782837825.post-67554485298682332512010-05-21T06:22:16.458+08:002010-05-21T06:22:16.458+08:00It is an impressive article, especially the part a...It is an impressive article, especially the part about history of Taiwan; the writing should get a full mark if I were your English 1A teacher. I wish more Taiwanese think and believe as you do; unfortunately no so today. You are more qualify to be a Taiwanese citizen than those native born Taiwanese who are unknowingly or intentionally selling their soul to KMT. ChoSanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5353489745782837825.post-11767650110512437072010-05-21T00:15:19.018+08:002010-05-21T00:15:19.018+08:00I guess you're right; he was in Denver. That t...I guess you're right; he was in Denver. That totally rings a bell. I think he may have then proceeded to Europe before calling on China. <br /><br />"Taiwan's governments need to get out of the business of mythmaking and culture." Thanks. That's the exact point of this post.Patrick Cowsillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12904899672214340947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5353489745782837825.post-53050957686731821032010-05-20T22:27:51.332+08:002010-05-20T22:27:51.332+08:00I think Sun was in Denver when word reached him th...I think Sun was in Denver when word reached him that a little buffoonery on the part of some soldiers sparked the revolution without him. Fitting as Sun was quite a buffoon himself. <br /><br />Taiwan's governments need to get out of the business of mythmaking and culture.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com